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Is the God of Christians different to the God of Muslims?

All true Christians believe Jesus is God, and therefore, Muslims and Christians worship different Gods. .. … I see no justification that the name of the god of Islam is “God” [Allah]….  My theory would be that he hasn’t revealed his name to Muslims because he doesn’t want them to know his true identity, which is Satan or some other demon. …….What you said about Allah’s 99 names is interesting. If I referred to Ar-Rahman, do you think the typical American Muslim would know who I was referring to? Also, I’m not really sure that those examples you gave are proper names, either. For example, my wife’s name isn’t “Wife.” That is simply a title. I could also call her “The Beautiful One” or “The Kind One” but those aren’t her names either. She has a name, and she shows respect to other people by telling them her real name.

[Extract  from 2nd comments by Mr.Bill Phillips on Post Lets not hateby Abujak at http://wp.me/PCgrB-fu]

Views / comments by the honorable Christians and Muslims will be highly appreciated. Some links for your study/reference are given below: [Abujak]

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“He hath ordained for you that religion which He commended unto Noah, and that which We inspire
in thee (Muhammad), and that which We commended unto Abraham and Moses and Jesus, saying:
Establish the religion, and be not divided therein. Dreadful for the idolaters is that unto which
thou callest them. Allah chooseth for Himself whom He will, and guideth unto Himself him who
turneth (toward Him). And they were not divided until after the knowledge came unto them, through
rivalry among themselves; and had it not been for a Word that had already gone forth from thy
Lord for an appointed term, it surely had been judged between them. And those who were made to
inherit the Scripture after them are verily in hopeless doubt concerning it. Unto this, then,
summon (O Muhammad). And be thou upright as thou art commanded, and follow not their lusts, but
say: I believe in whatever Scripture Allah hath sent down, and I am commanded to be just among
you. Allah is our Lord and your Lord. Unto us our works and unto you your works; no argument
between us and you. Allah will bring us together, and unto Him is the
journeying.”(Qur’an;42:13-15)


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Allah is our Lord and your Lord:

He hath ordained for you that religion which He commended unto Noah, and that which We inspire in thee (Muhammad), and that which We commended unto Abraham and Moses and Jesus, saying: Establish the religion, and be not divided therein. Dreadful for the idolaters is that unto which thou callest them. Allah chooseth for Himself whom He will, and guideth unto Himself him who turneth (toward Him). And they were not divided until after the knowledge came unto them, through rivalry among themselves; and had it not been for a Word that had already gone forth from thy Lord for an appointed term, it surely had been judged between them. And those who were made to inherit the Scripture after them are verily in hopeless doubt concerning it. Unto this, then, summon (O Muhammad). And be thou upright as thou art commanded, and follow not their lusts, but say: I believe in whatever Scripture Allah hath sent down, and I am commanded to be just among you. Allah is our Lord and your Lord. Unto us our works and unto you your works; no argument between us and you. Allah will bring us together, and unto Him is the journeying.”(Qur’an;42:13-15)

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Pope Pushing Idea that Allah and Jehovah are the same God.

[Issue Date: January/February 2000] In his weekly general audience in late May of 1999, Pope John Paul II addressed Muslims in a series discussing “inter-religious dialog.” He quotes from the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church n. 841 which states, “… together with us they (Muslims) adore the one, merciful, God.” The pope and many other religious leaders today, who are being wooed into the ecumenical movement, are accepting the idea that the god of the Koran and the God of the Bible are one and the same.

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Trinity, Holy: In Christian doctrine, the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as one God in three persons. The word Trinity does not appear in the Bible. It is a doctrine formulated in the early church to interpret the way God revealed himselffirst to Israel,then in Jesus as Saviour, and finally as Holy Spirit, preserver of the church. The doctrine of the Trinity developed in the early centuries of the church and was explicitly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Judaism

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=52&letter=N

http://www.mrwebauthor.com/mrmrswebauthor/names/

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_New_Testament_names_for_God

http://www.allaboutgod.com/names-of-god.htm

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  1. Comments received from Kashif Hasan via E Mail:

    In the name of Allah, We praise Him, seek His help and ask for His forgiveness. Whoever Allah guides none can misguide, and whoever He allows to fall astray, none can guide them aright. We bear witness that there is no one (no idol, no person, no grave, no prophet, no imam, no dai, nobody!) worthy of worship but Allah Alone, and we bear witness that Muhammad(saws) is His slave-servant and the seal of His Messengers.
    One thing common in all the Major Religions of the world is, that the God they worship, they believe He is the same God for them, as well as for the others. For eg… the God which the Hindus worship, they believe He is the same God for the Hindus as well as for the Non-Hindus. The God which the Christians worship, they believe He is the same God, for the Christians as well as for the Non-Christians. Similarly the God…Allah Subhana Wa Taala which we Muslims worship, we believe He is the same Allah Subhana Wa Taala for the Muslims, as well as for the Non-Muslims.

    the Holy Qur’an also says in Surah Isra, Ch. 17, Verse 110, it says… ‘Say, call upon Him, by Allah or by Rahman, by whichever name you call upon Him, to Him belongs the most beautiful names’. That means you can call Allah (SWT)… Almighty God by any name, but it should be a beautiful name. It should not conjure up a mental picture, and the Qur’an gives not less than 99 different attributes to Almighty God…. Ar Rahim, Ar Rahman, Al Jabbar, Al Kahar, Al Kuddus, no less than 99 attributes to Almighty God. He is Merciful, He is Beneficient and, etc. But the crowning one is, The Allah. Now, why we Muslims prefer calling Almighty God by the Arabic word Allah, instead of the English word God… the reason we Muslims prefer calling Allah (SWT) by the Arabic word Allah, because the English word God -it can be played around with. You can play mischief with the English word God. For example, if you add an ‘s’ to the God, it becomes Gods. In Islam, there is nothing like Allahs, there is no plural of Allah. Ch 112, Verse 1…. ‘Say He is Allah, one and only’. If you add ‘dess’ to god, it becomes goddess… meaning a female god. In Islam, there is nothing like male Allah, or female Allah. Allah (SWT) has got no gender. He is unique. If you add father to god, it becomes godfather -that he is my godfather, he is my guardian. There is nothing like Allah-father, or Allah-abba, in Islam. Allah, is a unique word. If you add a mother, to Allah… to God, it becomes godmother. There is nothing like Allah- ammi, or Allah-mother, in Islam. If you prefix a tin before God, it becomes tin-god… meaning fake. There is nothing like tin Allah, in Islam. We Muslims prefer calling Allah (SWT), by the Arabic word Allah… than by the English word God. Otherwise Qur’an says… ‘You call Him by any name besides’ Surah Isra, Ch. 17, Verse 110. It is also mentioned in Surah Araf, Ch. 7, Verse 180, in Surah Taha, Ch. 20, Verse 20, and Surah Al-Hashr, Ch. 59, Verse 24, that… ‘You can call Allah, by any name but to Him belongs the most beautiful name’. It should be a beautiful name. It should not conjure up a mental picture

    It is mentioned in the Old Testament – Moses (pbuh) says in the book of Deuteronomy, Ch. No. 6, V.No. 4, ‘Shama Israelo Adna ilahaina adna ikat’. It is a Hebrew quotation which means… ‘Hear oh Israel, the Lord our God, is one Lord’. That means… ‘God is One and Only’. It is further mentioned in the book of Isaiah Ch.No.43, V.No.11…‘I, even I, am Lord and besides Me there is no Savior’. In the book Isaiah, Ch.No. 45, V.No.5…‘I am Lord, and there is none else, and I am God, besides Me, who there is no one. In the book of Isaiah, Ch.No. 46, V.No 9, it says…‘I am Lord, and there is none else – I am God, and there is nothing like Me’. It is further mentioned in the Book ‘Exodus’, Ch. No.20, V.No.3 to 5. It says that… God Almighty says in the scriptures – ‘Thou shall have no other Gods besides Me’. Thou shall make unto thee no graven image of any likeness, of anything that is in the heavens above, that is in the earth beneath, and that is in the water under the earth. Thou shall not bow down to them, nor serve them, for I the Lord, the God, is a jealous God.’ Same message is repeated in the book of Deuteronomy, Ch.No. 5, V.No.7 to 9, that…‘Thou shall have no other gods besides Me. Thou shall not make thee any graven image, of any likeness, of anything that is the heavens above, that is in the earth beneath, and in the water beneath the earth. Thou shall not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them for I the Lord, the God am a jealous God’. So if you read the Old Testament, you will understand the concept of God in Judaism – it believes only in one God, and is totally against idol worship. Before we discuss ‘the concept of God in Christianity’, I would like to make a few points clear. Islam is the only Non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (peace be upon him). No Muslim, is ‘a Muslim’ if he does not believe in Jesus (peace be upon him). We believe that he was one of the mightiest messengers of Allah Subhana Wa Taalah – of Almighty God. We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention, which many modern day Christians do not believe. We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission. We believe that he healed those born blind, and lepers with God’s permission. The Christians and Muslims, we are going together hand in hand, but there are parting of ways. There are many Christians who say that ‘Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), he was Almighty God, he himself claimed Divinity’. Infact, if you read the Bible, there is not a single uneqvivocable statement in the whole Bible, where Jesus (peace be upon him) himself says, that ‘I am God’, or where he says ‘Worship me’. I would like to repeat that statement that there is not a single uneqvivocable statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus (peace be upon him) himself says that… ‘I am God’ or, where he says… ‘Worship me’. Infact if you read the Bible it is mentioned in the Gospel of John, Ch.No. 14, V.No.28, Jesus (peace be upon him) said – ‘My Father is greater than I’ In the Gospel of John, Ch. No.10, V.No. 29 ‘My father is greater than all’. In the Gospel of Mathew Ch.No.12 V.No.28 “I cast out devil with Sprit of God’. Gospel of Luke, Ch. No. 11 V.No.20 “I with the finger of God, cast out devils’. Gospel of John, Ch.No.5 V.No.30 ‘I can of my own self do nothing – as I hear I judge, and my judgement is just, because I seek not my will, but the will of thy Father, who has sent me’. He never claimed Divinity. Infact he came to testify the pervious law. And he mentions in the Gospel of Mathew Ch.5 V.17 to Verse No. 20, ‘Think not that I am come to destroy the law and the Prophets – I am come not to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till the heaven and earth pass, one jot or one title shall not pass away from the law, untill all be fulfilled. And whosoever therefore, shall break one of the least commandments and teach men to do so, will be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven. And whosoever shall keep them, and teach them so, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. For verily, unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the Scribes and the Pharasees, in no way shall you enter the Kingdom of Heaven. So Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) said, ‘that If you people want to enter Heaven, you have to keep each and every commandment of Prophet Moses (peace be upon him). You have to follow each and every law given in the Old Testament, including the verses I quoted earlier that ‘there is one God, and you should not do idol worship, you should not make any graven image of Him’. Jesus (peace be upon him), he never said that he was God. Infact he said ‘He was sent by God. He was a Prophet of God’. It is mentioned in the Gospel of John, Ch.No. 14, V.No.24, ‘The words that you hear, are not mine, but it is my Father’s, who has sent me’. Gospel of John, Ch.No. 17, V.No.3 ‘This is eternal life, so that you may know there is one true God, and Jesus Christ, who Thou has sent’. And it is mentioned in the Gospel of Mathew, Ch.No.19, V.No.16 and 17, that one of the persons approaches Jesus (pbuh), and says ‘Good Master, what good things shall I do, that I shall attain eternal life’. Jesus (peace be upon him) replies in V.No.17 of Gospel of Mathew, Ch.No.19 – ‘And Jesus said upto him, ‘Why thou callest me good? For there is none good, except One, that is God – And if you want to enter life, keep the commandments’. Jesus (peace be upon him) never said that if you want to go to heaven, you consider me as Almighty God. He never said that you believe that I will die for your sins – In fact he said, ‘You keep the commandments’. It is further mentioned in the book of Acts, Ch.No. 2 V.No.22 “O men of Israel, hear this, Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved by God, amongst you, by miracles, and wonders and signs, which God did by him, in your presence, and you were witness’. It says, ‘Jesus of Nazareth a man approved by God, by miracles and wonders, which God did by him’. And when Jesus (peace be upon him) was asked, that ‘which is the first of the commandments’? he repeated verbitem what was said earlier by Moses (peace be upon him). It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Ch. No. 12, V.No. 29, he said ‘Shama Israelo, Ada Ilahaino Ada Ihad’ It is a Hebrew quotation which means, ‘Hear Oh Israel, the Lord our God, is in one lord’. So if you read the Bible, you will understand the concept of God, in Christianity.

    From Allah have we all come, in Allah we believe, to Allah Alone is all our worship due, and to Him Alone is our ultimate return.
    Your genuine well-wisher and brother in the deen of Islam,
    Kashif Hasan:

    Sep 29, 2009 at 11:50 PM

    Posted by Abujak | October 3, 2009, 11:56 pm

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